Good post,This was exactly what I needed to read today! I am sure this has relevance to many of us out there.

I think we should pay what we own the pakistani players for playing last year’s IPL.. for this year though they have no right to complain because they deemed it “unsafe” to play in India. By the time the IPL moved to south africa the teams were ready with the players and it was final.
India has nothing to lose if pakistani players dont come. we have to make sure security situations in pakistan doesnt affect india..

I can see a lot of hatred from Indians towards Pakistanis, I dont think they are going to pay anything to any Pakistani.

To add to my support below of IPL being sued. Many here are judging the pak cricket board as the reason for the termination. That is equally naive to cite.

The contract is a private contract between players and IPL. The IPL has legal basis to terminate BUT to do so without informing, discussing such termination with legal representatives of such players (Typically they would be sports agents), is violating the terms of the contract.

Again- They have a right to terminate but to do so without any follow up discussion or notice and worse with no pay is a grave violation of their own standards of contracts.

As an Indian I fully support IPL being sued. It’s ridiculous how my fellow Indians state “don’t mess with the employer”. Its that meek personality that lets employers get away with bloody murder!

Sue them and sue them for high value of cash, so that if they lose it would hurt their pockets greatly and they won’t ever in the future, not adhere to professional conduct in executing contracts.

In the US, because of past civil and criminal cases and judgments handed down by jurors ( millions in penalties)- have led to big companies adhering to sound contract negotiations and terminations.

Brothers,

Its as simple as this : Pakistan govt refused to send players on security grounds. The IPL contracted new players in their position. Now nobody had forseen that the IPL will move 2 south africa.
On on side Pakistani cricketers say the World Cup should move away from India, on the other hand they expect pay from the Indian league. Double standards!

This comment is in reply to what Prakash said on April 27th, 2009 at 23:03

Dear Prakash

Firstly I want to make it very very clear that there was no ego in Pakistan’s government decision for not allowing Pakistani players to go to India. Do you recall what actually happened with the Pakistani comedy circus stars when they came to India after the November incident. So then who would have guranteed the security of the cricket players.

Secondly also please let me know why is IPL happening in South Africa instead of India? Isn’t the answer obvious – security concerns – and still you think that the Pakistani players would have been secured playing in India.

have nothing against pakistan but it actually disappointing to see former and current pak players making fools of themselves (latest being miandad & latif).

I still remember during an IPL match when Shoaib Aktar took those 4 wkts against Delhi DareDevils was cheered by some 90,000 crazy Indian fans at Eden gardens(Kolkatta). We need those days back. We need have some TRUST between each other. Terrorists wants Ind-Pak to always fight against each other so they can fulfill their goal.
There are some vested interest in pakistan which can’t see India as Financial power but 70% of pakistanis wants peace with India and hopefully we will achieve that soon.Thanks.

Dear Baleshwar Singh,

If you feel that a “commitment is a commitment”, then please tell me why the Pakistan government banned its own players from participating in the IPL? Dont you think the Pak government had violated a commitment by banning its own players, simply because Pak’s ego had been hurt when the supposed tour by the Indian side was cancelled? and that too by giving a ludicrous reason of “insecurity” to its players, when all other test playing nations agreed to send their players to the IPL?

And can you also tell me how long the IPL franchisees should have waited for the Pak government to release its own players?

When the participation of Pakistani players becomes uncertain, that too because of Pak govt, the IPL franchisees have no other option but to flll their foreign quota with players from other countries. The IPL is a commercial entertainment venture where schedules have to kept and business deals have to be honoured. It simply cannot stand idle and wait for the Pak govt or PCB to complete their flip-flops and come to a firm decision.

some of these comments put by my Indian brothers are mean and rude about our players.Yes the situation in Pakistan is bad,but that does mean that anyone can come and write nonsense and get away with it. please dont look down on someone,for you will never know the future. the comments I really liked reading is Mr Haider Ali’s – he was very good reading and to the point.thanks.

I Feel commitment is a commitment and IPL and BCCI are the leading organisations in the cricket world and they should make sure that all Pakistani Players who had commited them selves to play in IPL do play, if they Cannot play for any reasons sited by IPL they should atleast be paid.

B Singh

My advice to the affected player is ‘Please go ahead with the legal means to acquire your fees. In India even Ajmal Kasab is also getting a fair trial. If contract is unfairly terminated players will get the compansesion.

May god help you.

Naren
Mumbai

Anyway once the Taliban takeover is complete there will be no wastage of useful time in sports. So why worry about stuff which is going to be phased out very soon.

well in the end it is cricket, the pakistani players and the audience who suffered…..politics and ego ruined the basic essence of a sport……no ones to be blamed but the bloated egos……..may the spirit of sports prevail……i hope the ppl running the country bestowed wt some senses……We will miss the all pakistani players……it was a sight worth million dollars….indians and pakistanis in the same team….cheering, hugging,fighting as a team…… i m a proud man to have witnessed it last year…..hope to see the pakistani players next year…….

I would reckon that the IPL management which is in fact Indian Cricket board is acting in a very snobbish, and biased manner.

Pakistan cant do much about it, the players should be helped to recover the money,they cant be robbed which the IPL is doing, all legal avenues to be established.

And from here onwards only they are invited in a dignified way they can join otherwise concentrate on other ways and domestic cricket or english leauges.

With reference to Aurangzeb’s comments….

Yes, you can certainly take your employer to court if he has signed a 3 year agreement but the deal is terminated mid way without paying any termination fee or the fee for the first year that you actually worked.

If no such clauses are stipulated in the agreement then this is a flawed and unilateral agreement as highlighted by the writer.

What I fail to understand is why is’nt one Pakistani saying that first it was their Govt who refused to send Pakistani players to India. Only then IPL terminated their contract.
For example: When an employee refuses to come to work or office then the employer will take action and terminate their employment. It’s simple as that.

Rashid Mehsud

Do you know what you are capable of? Do you understand the cricket economic might of India vis-a-vis Pakistan?

Just to let you know Pakistan is huffing and puffing its way to 4 Mil USD for the WHOLE Aus ODI Series. You know India is making 1 Mil Dollar Per MINUTE during their 10 minute IPL Break ???Calculate what that equates to.

And you talk about getting Indian Players to play in a fictional non-existent PPL?

I agree with Savio…Who will come to Pakistan to play PPL. And does PCB have the financial power to buy Indian players?? NOOOOO WAAYY. Top of it I don’t think Indian players care to come to Pakistan to play PPL.

You are right Mr. Aurangzeb.
Even if you take your employer to the court, you might get some money but your employer won’t hire you again in the future. You will have to find another company to work with.
So don’t mess with your employer and just do what he asks you to do.

My employer says, “hey, you, no one wants you here anymore and please don’t come to office from tomorrow!

Here’s the cancellation of our employment agreement and here is your termination letter!”

Can I take my employer to court?

Ha..haha..ha..Well said Rashid Mehsud. I must say you are a verry intelligent person. Pakistan should have their own PPL and since world stars won’t be interested in comming.

Pakistan will have to play with Taliban ,Swat team, Northwest Forntier region and Afganistan. That will big hit in Pakistan and your players will also get some match practice.. haha haha..
Any new suggestions Rashid???

re: rashid mehsud
Even if PCB starts PPL, do you really think pakistan will afford to sign indian players?? no indian cricketer will sign a contract for anything under million dollars. Even domestic players in india earn that kind of money, that’s why nobody from india goes & plays county cricket either. Basically pakistani’s need to start thinkin thru their head rather than heart. You guys need to stop being sentimental & start being realistic. There is a need in pakistan to start rebuilding reputation & earn respect. This can only be done by stop being in denial mode & start to address the internal problems, instead of blaming BCCI. Unless you do that, you will only be digging the hole deeper while you are still in it.

PPL is the only answer to this issue. Somebody should form it and contract all players like IPL did and then dump the Indians midway. Then they will feel the pinch.

We should give them a fitting reply

I do agree 100% with Malik. let us not talk GHATIA (Bad) words about Imran Khan. He is an International Cricekt figure and very much respected by us (we indians).

Any discussion should not deviate in cheap and personal comments.

Personally I love the era of Imran khan, Waseem Akram, Javed Miandad, Waqar Younis etc. They were so competetitive and great.

But still today in IPL, I am missing my favoriate players such as Shoaib Mallik, Shahid afridi, Younis Khan etc. I think, hopefully, we will be able to see good players around the world, including pakistan, in this POPCORN IPL cricket.

dont blame ipl, instead blame lies with the pakistani government for not allowing the players to play in india.

India is a cricketing superpower therefore it will be a big mistake of Pakistani players if they go to court or take any legal action. They will have to pay the heavy prize for it. Everyone knows its India who controls ICC so Pakistan should rather concentrate on its domestic cricket and should forget about IPL because people of India will not tolerate Pakistani players in Indian Premier League. World cup has been moved out of Pakistan and this is only the beginning therefore Pakistan must not mess with India. India is not the country you can mess with. If you mess with India again you will soon see what we can do to you.

Looks like the author who wrote this article doesn’t have a clue what he’s writing.

After Mumbai attacks, Indian govt had only told BCCI to cancel their Pak tour, and in retaliation, the Pakistani govt banned their players from participating in the IPL.To fill the gap IPL had no other choice but to hire new foreign players.

I also want to know, did any of the pakistani players give in writing to IPL regarding their non-participation in the IPL 2009??

Pakistani players had kept quiet till IPL decided to go to South Africa. Now why this drama of asking compensation.It’s just matter of sour grapes.

Lastly I don

Rahul, Imran Khan is a cricket legend not only for PAKISTAN but of the WORLD. Disrespecting him and his name with such incitive language is not the way to discuss matters. If you truly are a lover of cricket then I should think that you should have enough dicipline in your thoughts to stay away from such allegations. The topic being discussed has nothing to do with Imran or his personal life.

AOA.well pak players should only
focus on their cricket series.
i agree with this if there is a contract
they should be informed aboout the reason
why they are dropped.

If the contracts are so unprofessional then how come the best of cricketers in the world have them?

I do not know all this drama about pakistan india. Looks like this is script of someone else and we are playing our role like idiots. Limited contace in nutral site was the great chance to start the healing process .. and we missed it.

Can the security expert the legendry ( more for womanising ) imran khan comment on all this

Performance wins everything. I think Pak cricketers should forget about IPL/ICL and concentrate on their game only. Imagine Pak wins 5-0 against Australia and if they continue to perform even overseas for next 2/3 years, imagine cricket playing nations will be attractive to Pak. Good performance, classy players will do the magic for Pak. I would advice the players to PLEASE concentrate on what you have on hand and rest assure everything will be resolved. As far as IPL is concerned, as said by others its all about business so owners will protected their investment and that’s exactly what IPL organizers are doing.

Wasim…

We don’t want to become martyrs (the sri lankans almost did)by coming to Pakistan. So don’t complain about India not visiting Pakistan. We believe in living life to the fullest intead of becoming martyr and heading to heaven (we are not qualified anyway, being non-muslims)

PCB must clean up its act. They are so desperate for cash Altaf and Co. are chasing the Rawalpndi Express to cough up the fine. Such a sorry state of affairs.

Pakistanis have the gall to take IPL to court? Pakistan has been stripped off WC duties and even now are trying to put up a brave face. Pakistan must clean up it’s act before trying things impossible. The country is in a mess (of it’s own making) and need extraordinary infusion of international money in the so called fight against terrorism. With so much haappening why talk of IPL and ICL for that matter even cricket. Wake up from the DENIAL guys.

Salman needs to know the basics of cricket first,and in today’s world its the BCCI who controls cricket, so what happens if you go against it,yeah no income for the ICC or the concerned board.

I don’t see any poosibility of Pakistani player get any kind of compansation or palying IPL ever again.it is all over for pakistani player.good luck to all pakistani player and citizens.

First, I can assure on behalf of millions of cricket lovers in India that we would certainly like to see the pakistani players play in IPL.
However, I think the legal remedy is far fetched as I think in any contract there would probably be a ‘forece-majeure’ clause. In this case even if the contract is terminated it is due to government action, hence might be hit by the ‘forece-majeure’ clause.
Lastly even if pakistani players win in a court of law it would only be a pyrrhic victory as in future no franchise would bid for pakistani players considering the changing stances of the two governments, rightly or wrongly, and in case they have to suffer the financial consequence of the same.

It is Gov of Pakistan who is responsible for this mess. Pak players should ask fees from the gov. IPL is the business, each franchiser will not wait till the last moment about the availability of the players or not.So wait for the next season and don’t spoil the relationship.

PCB should include our ICL players back int he national squad and stop letting BCCI dictate the terms.

We suffered the most by this biased BCCI policy of not letting players from ICL play in national squads. All international teams banned their teams and India climbed up the rankings – a nice trick.

So stop listening to BCCI, take IPL to court and include ICL players in the national squad.

Its an Indian premier league therefore we will decide who will in it and who will not. Anybody from the world can take part in Indian premier league accept Pakistanis and thats a promise from an Indian. no IPL for Pakistanis.

I would like the author to verify his facts and not incorporate arbitrary claims in his articles. The authors says “both the Pakistani and Indian governments had deemed it unsafe for the Pakistanis to compete in India”… I dont think the Indian government actually banned Pakistani players from participating in the IPL. The Indian govt had only told the BCCI to cancel their Pak tour, and in retaliation, the Pakistani govt promptly banned their players from participating in the IPL.
When the participation of the Pak players was very uncertain, the IPL franchisees had no other option but to fill their quota of foreign players from other countries right? The IPL simply cannot wait for the Pak govt to go through their usual series of flip-flops and take a long time to arrive at a firm decision. The IPL is a well-planned commercial entertainment venture which has its own schedule to be kept.
I would like to ask the author whether the Pakistani govt or the PCB sent “formal” non-participation letter to the IPL when the Pak players were banned by the Pak govt from playing in the IPL?

very sad affair no comments.please read all comments and let the mind say what is true.

It is the fault of the PCB, They dont help their own team. Half the time our board is busy prosecuting its own players. Just like our political leaders, our sports authority also does not a clue what is going on. U Turns All Around Us, what a Shame. Shameless bunch of admistrators.

We can’t blame the Indians, they allowed our players in IPL and ICL. They cheered our players and respected them.

I do agree with Haider,enough is enough,let us get rid of this cancer in our society.So that my children and grandchildren can go and watch a decent game of International cricket in Pakistan like I did 25 years ago.I do favour good brotherly relations with India,we need their support to build our economy. I call upon all like minded Pakistanis to come forward and get rid of this menace,we do love our country and our freedom.

we need to grow up and say enough is enough,we need to tell the so called “Protectors of Islam” to let us lead our own life and the way we worship,its enough of them interfering with all walks of our life,and they have also crossed the line by interefering with our favourite game cricket,IPL was so good to watch last year with the Pakistani players and Indians players getting on so well and the Indian crowds cheering for them,I loved every minute of it.This year I will be missing all my talented tigers,and not the BCCI or PCB are to blame but the goverment to let these extremists breed in our country and make it weak,under the disguise of Islam. so let us Pakistanis rise beyond relegion caste or creed and bring back the Pakistan we all knew,let relegious extremism take a back seat and put our beloved country first.

Pakistan player should take IPL to court and ask for compensation. If Pakistani player had left IPL could have done the same thing. It’s a matter of professional misconduct on part of IPL.

Looks like government of Pakistan and player of Pakistan both have different stance. on one hand government
Of Pakistan does not want any ties with India including sporting events while Pakistani players want to play in IPL and make their living.

If Pakistani players wanted to Play IPL they should make themselves available for the event long back and inform the government about their decision.
I guess it is too late now and really cannot blame IPL administrators.

The way Pakistani players behaving now virtually eliminating any possibility of playing IPL ever in their life

We (the public) want PCB to review their policies & get BCCI / ICL into the court of law for their wrong doings, enabling PCB to induct their talent back to the national team. It should be decided once for all.

Certainly agree with you waseem

Beggars cant be choosers !
They dont want us to come.. why are we begging.

Hi,

Pak players should first sue their cricket board for screwingup their chances of playing in IPL. IPL ast year gave them a chance to play with players from Australia and other countries which they had missed for a long time. Its just PCB ego at stake. Its Pakistans loss not IPL’s.

Ravi

Its quite ridiculous that on the one hand the government doesnt want to send its players and then weeks later wants to insert its players in the teams. Are the team owners fools ? Is there no honor ? I cannot imagine Sachin Tendulkar begging to be included in a team that doesnt want him. Money that would otherwise have been paid to Pakistan players have been spent and its not a endless pit. While none of us have seen the contracts to know the merits of the case, one thing is for sure .. if IPL is dragged to the court for an extended arbitration, Pakistan players can kiss their future participation a neat goodbye.

Pak players should forget about IPL and ICL and concentrate on domestic cricket or try horse riding, swords play etc

Don’t know the legal implications, but what choice Rajasthan or Kolkata had when they came to know that Pakistan government will not send the players to play any IPL games!

Just yesterday, Shane Warne, Rajasthan’s captain, said he’ll miss Sohail Tanvir. And, I am sure Sohail will miss Rajasthan. Such a fine show he had last year!

Now that the quota of 4 international players is full for each team, not much can be done. I feel sorry for the teams, the audience, and mostly, for the Pakistani players who had to miss this grand opportunity to earn a lot of money and demonstrate their cricketing ability to the whole world.

Once again, politics wins at our expense.

Wasim Bhai,

HA..Ha.. Well said. You hit the nail right on the head.

PCB is the one first stopped the played not go to India? If you don’t play why are you asking money? So will come to India to play in IPL but you will go to SA to play in IPL? Pakistan players paid for what they played in India and they are not required play in IPL.
What great players?

IPL is everything about greed, there is no national pride involved. It is all about milking the maximum money. Best of luck to the pakistani players for the same.

Stop baby crying!
We should realise that we were first to urge pakistani players not to partcipate in IPL when Indian team didnt visit Pakistan. Our govt then stopped Pakistani players from participating in IPL in the retaliation.
Now when they are not playing in IPL, why this cry about legal action etc etc. We have achieved what we wanted and now when we achieved what we wanted, we are singing a different tune.

I fully agree with Wasim that it was Pakistan’s government which put the restrictions on players on travelling to India after Mumbai attacks. Our players should first ask from the government to compensate for the money which they lost and also from the IPL franchise CEOs to give them atleast 25% of their total amount as it’s not the players fault that they cannot play. Unfortunely our PCB administrators also did’nt care to help them. I have been living in US for last 10 yrs now and I know how popular IPL is here within our South Asian population. Guys be patient and I am sure Pakistani players will be back next year. Regardless with or without pakistani players I will watch IPL matches,though I will miss all our players.

Why everybody is forgetting that Pakistan government first put a restriction on players to travel to India.

Legally the players should have been given a notice if it was in their contract the players can sue for wrongful termination of their contracts but as far as them not playing in this years season I don’t think that they have any legal remedy against IPL.

We chose not to send our players to IPL this year in retaliation to India’s decision of not sending their team to Pakistan. Now all this talk of our players not being allowed by BCCI to play IPL just makes us look like sore losers there is no pride and honor in it.

We should not send our teams to IPL or ICL as long as India does not send it’s team to Pakistan. This should be our stance.

The play must take legal action as this is their right. PCB has responsibilty to protect them as well. If PCB is standing with IPL and has resisted all along ICL just to make BCCI happy then this is their (PCB) burden as well.

‘The franchises have given them nothing in writing.’
Players need to understand that in today’s world there is nothing called writing. If you have been sent an email or telephoned that’s fine. Normally in this cases players’ agent is informed. If not then they can sue their employer depending upon their contract conditions. And when you sue you can also ask for compansation for the legal expenses and mental torcher. Good luck.

Well, I fully agree with the point that Pakistani players must not let go their fee.

Last year during the IPL as I watched the Pakistani players play along with the Indians and being cheered by the Indian crowds, I was quite convinced that a new era had indeed dawned between the two nations.

Infact, I quite remember one match in Delhi, where Asif bowled his heart out for the daredevils and was cheered all around, by the Delhi crowd.

But Alas! It was a false dawn. Or maybe some foolish and evil forces did not like the joy sport had bought to these two great nations.

Mumbai happened and now all of India is more or less convinced that Pakistan can never see a prosperous or a friendly India.

Yet I am convinced that they are sections in Pakistan who feel that war and hostility is futile. Yet these sections remain quiet or maybe too scared to speak out. Even if they do, they only give a qualified condemnation of the terrorist.

Can we let people with a gun get away, just because they hold a gun?

C’mon Pakistani friends, display the courage in real life, you so often show on the cricket and sporting field. If you do not do it now, you will end up giving your hard fought democracy to the forces of evil who are holding the gun on your head….

Its amazing the kind of biased stuff you chaps put out in your newspaper/website.
If the IPL contracts were ‘worst in professional sport’ why did Pakistan’s so called ‘professional’ (if you can call them that) players sign it? Are they babes in the woods with diapers on? If so they don’t belong in international cricket; they belong in a zoo.